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이메일 #041

Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:55:06 +0100
From: Satoshi Nakamoto <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-list] Does Bitcoin Crash in Windows?
To: Liberty Standard <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]

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Liberty Standard wrote:
> Do you Windows users experience occasional Bitcoin crashes?
> Lately Bitcoin running in wine-1.0.1 has been crashing frequently. I was
> just wondering whether this is a Wine issue or a Bitcoin issue.

I haven't had any reports of crashes in v0.1.5. It's been rock solid
for me on Windows. I think it must be Wine related. If you get another
crash in Wine and it prints anything on the terminal, e-mail me and I
may be able to figure out what happened, maybe something I can work
around. Martti and I have been working on a new version to release soon
and it would be nice to get any Wine fixes in there.

> The following four lines print from the terminal when I start Bitcoin.
> fixme:toolhelp:CreateToolhelp32Snapshot Unimplemented: heap list snapshot
> fixme:toolhelp:Heap32ListFirst : stub
> fixme:toolhelp:CreateToolhelp32Snapshot Unimplemented: heap list snapshot
> fixme:toolhelp:Heap32ListFirst : stub

Those don't look like anything to worry about. Probably functions
unimplemented by Wine that are harmlessly stubbed out.

> I previously wasn't starting Bitcoin from the terminal, so I don't know what
> gets printed out when it crashes, but I'll reply with the results the next
> time it crashes.
>
> While Bitcoin first downloads previously completed blocks, the file
> debug.log grows grows to 17.4 MB and then stops growing. I imagine it will
> continue to grow as more bitcoins are completed.

You can delete debug.log occasionally if you don't want to take the disk
space. It's just status messages that help with debugging.

bitcoin.sourceforge.net looks fine now. Maybe sourceforge was doing
some maintenance.

Satoshi

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이메일 #042

Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:50:10 +0000
From: Satoshi Nakamoto <[email protected]>
Subject: Fw: bitcoin.sourceforge.net
To: Martti Malmi <[email protected]>

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Any idea what's going on with it?  Every time I look, it's fine.


Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:55:06AM +0100, Satoshi Nakamoto wrote:
> > bitcoin.sourceforge.net looks fine now. Maybe sourceforge was doing

Doesn't work right now.

> > some maintenance.


Liberty Standard wrote:
> In case you weren't aware, the Bitcoin website is down.
>
> http://bitcoin.sourceforge.net/
>
> -----
> You are running bitweaver in TEST mode
>
> * Click here to log a bug, if this appears to be an error with the
> application.
> * Go here to begin the installation process, if you haven't done so
> already.
> * To hide this message, please set the IS_LIVE constant to TRUE
in your
> kernel/config_inc.php file.

이메일 #043

Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:02:49 +0200
From: [email protected]
To: Satoshi Nakamoto <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fw: bitcoin.sourceforge.net

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IS_LIVE option was indeed set to false, but it only affects the  
visibility of error messages to user. I've noticed the site being slow
at times, sometimes taking up to 30 seconds to load. I think it's
related to the Sourceforge hosting. Bitweaver should be among the
lightest PHP CMS'es, but I can check out if there are any issues to it.

Off the topic, do you think that we could use Boost's thread and
socket libraries instead of the Windows-specific ones? Are there other
windows-only-functions used in the code?

> Any idea what's going on with it? Every time I look, it's fine.
>
>
> Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:55:06AM +0100, Satoshi Nakamoto wrote:
>> > bitcoin.sourceforge.net looks fine now. Maybe sourceforge was doing
>
> Doesn't work right now.
>
>> > some maintenance.
>
>
> Liberty Standard wrote:
>> In case you weren't aware, the Bitcoin website is down.
>>
>> http://bitcoin.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> -----
>> You are running bitweaver in TEST mode
>>
>> * Click here to log a bug, if this appears to be an error with the
>> application.
>> * Go here to begin the installation process, if you haven't done so
>> already.
>> * To hide this message, please set the IS_LIVE constant to TRUE in your
>> kernel/config_inc.php file.

이메일 #044

Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:45:47 +0000
From: Satoshi Nakamoto <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fw: bitcoin.sourceforge.net
To: [email protected]

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Sourceforge is just so darn slow.  I don't know what else to do though. 
It's such a standard, more often than not any given project has a
projectname.sourceforge.net site. When I see whatever.sourceforge.net
in a google search, I assume that's the official site.

Is there a way to make Bitweaver allow users to edit (and maybe delete)
their own messages in the forum?

Getting antsy to port to Linux? It's not a decision to be taken lightly
because once it's done, it doubles my testing and building workload.
Although I am worried about Liberty's Wine crashes.

I've tried to be as portable as possible and use standard C stuff
instead of Windows calls. The threading is _beginthread which is part
of the standard C library. wxWidgets has wxCriticalSection stuff we can
use. The sockets code is send/recv stuff which I think is the same as
unix because Microsoft ported sockets from BSD. We need direct control
over sockets, it wouldn't be a good idea to get behind an abstraction
layer. wxWidgets is a good place to look for cross-platform support
functions. I want to avoid #ifdefing up the code if we can. Anything
that's used more than once probably becomes a function in util.cpp that
has the #ifdef in it.

BTW, I have a lot of uncommitted changes right now because it includes
some crucial protocol transitions that can't be unleashed on the network
until I've tested the heck out of it. It shouldn't be too much longer.

Can you make the setup uninstall the Startup folder icon? I figure it
should install and uninstall an icon in a regular program group, and
just uninstall the Startup folder one. I guess it doesn't matter that
much whether it installs and uninstalls the Startup folder icon or just
uninstalls it.

[email protected] wrote:
> IS_LIVE option was indeed set to false, but it only affects the
> visibility of error messages to user. I've noticed the site being slow
> at times, sometimes taking up to 30 seconds to load. I think it's
> related to the Sourceforge hosting. Bitweaver should be among the
> lightest PHP CMS'es, but I can check out if there are any issues to it.
>
> Off the topic, do you think that we could use Boost's thread and socket
> libraries instead of the Windows-specific ones? Are there other
> windows-only-functions used in the code?
>
>> Any idea what's going on with it? Every time I look, it's fine.
>>
>>
>> Eugen Leitl wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:55:06AM +0100, Satoshi Nakamoto wrote:
>>> > bitcoin.sourceforge.net looks fine now. Maybe sourceforge was doing
>>
>> Doesn't work right now.
>>
>>> > some maintenance.
>>
>>
>> Liberty Standard wrote:
>>> In case you weren't aware, the Bitcoin website is down.
>>>
>>> http://bitcoin.sourceforge.net/
>>>
>>> -----
>>> You are running bitweaver in TEST mode
>>>
>>> * Click here to log a bug, if this appears to be an error with the
>>> application.
>>> * Go here to begin the installation process, if you haven't done so
>>> already.
>>> * To hide this message, please set the IS_LIVE constant to TRUE
>>> in your
>>> kernel/config_inc.php file.
>
>
>

이메일 #045

Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:27:35 +0200
From: [email protected]
To: Satoshi Nakamoto <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fw: bitcoin.sourceforge.net

영어 원문

> Sourceforge is just so darn slow.  I don't know what else to do though.
> It's such a standard, more often than not any given project has a
> projectname.sourceforge.net site. When I see whatever.sourceforge.net
> in a google search, I assume that's the official site.
>
> Is there a way to make Bitweaver allow users to edit (and maybe delete)
> their own messages in the forum?

It's not possible with the current version of Bitweaver. Bitweaver's
wiki and forum packages aren't so very highly advanced. SF hosting
also has its disadvantages, like the occasional slowness and lack of
e-mailer and user IP retrieving. I've been considering to buy web
hosting from prq.se (the host of Wikileaks and Pirate Bay, among
others) to be used later for the exchange service. I could maybe host
the project site there as well, under a separate user account for
better security. There I could set up Drupal or TikiWiki, which are
more advanced and have quite a lot bigger and more active
developer/user communities than Bitweaver.

> Getting antsy to port to Linux? It's not a decision to be taken
> lightly because once it's done, it doubles my testing and building
> workload. Although I am worried about Liberty's Wine crashes.
>
> I've tried to be as portable as possible and use standard C stuff
> instead of Windows calls. The threading is _beginthread which is part
> of the standard C library. wxWidgets has wxCriticalSection stuff we
> can use. The sockets code is send/recv stuff which I think is the same
> as unix because Microsoft ported sockets from BSD. We need direct
> control over sockets, it wouldn't be a good idea to get behind an
> abstraction layer. wxWidgets is a good place to look for
> cross-platform support functions. I want to avoid #ifdefing up the
> code if we can. Anything that's used more than once probably becomes a
> function in util.cpp that has the #ifdef in it.

Ok. I replaced the Windows thread and socket library includes with
their POSIX equivalents, and now it only gives a few errors, mostly svn/branches, it doesn't need to be an official release yet.

> Can you make the setup uninstall the Startup folder icon? I figure it
> should install and uninstall an icon in a regular program group, and
> just uninstall the Startup folder one. I guess it doesn't matter that
> much whether it installs and uninstalls the Startup folder icon or just
> uninstalls it.

I'll do it.
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