이메일 #101 - #105
원본 출처: Satoshi - Sirius emails 2009-2011
이메일 #101
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:17:00 +0200
From: [email protected]
To: Satoshi Nakamoto <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: SMF forum, need a mod installed
영어 원문
Oh yes, one more thing. I haven't configured the server's sendmail
yet, so the php mail functionality doesn't work, but it's not needed
yet anyway.
> I don't have the time to configure it today, but I made a temporary
> account "maintenance" with password "6648ku5HeK" and full permissions
> to /var/www/bitcoin. You can access it via ssh or sftp at port 30000.
>
> It's okay to go live. Are you setting up a redirect or a dns entry? In
> case of dns entry I could set up an Apache vhost so that the forum
> address would be http://forum.bitcoin.org/.
>
> Great that the Linux build works now. It's exciting to see how things
> will start rolling with the new release and the forum. Not too long
> until I can set up my own exchange and start promoting the currency to
> (web) business people.
>
> NewLibertyStandard should perhaps change his pricing to the market
> price (i.e. what people are willing to buy and sell for) so that he
> doesn't run out of coins.
>
>> I've been configuring the SMF forum. They're saying SMF is better
>> written than phpBB and more reliable, so if I can get SMF to look
>> right, that's the preferable choice.
>>
>> Most forums run vBulletin (big-boards.com lists 1376 vBulletin, 275
>> Invision, 245 phpBB and 41 SMF), so if you don't look like vBulletin or
>> Invision, it looks like you compromised because you couldn't afford
>> vBulletin. SMF's UI started out further away from the standard look,
>> but I've been able to use CSS to make it look more like the others.
>>
>> I've done as much as I can with CSS, the rest requires editing PHP
>> files and uploading images. The forum doesn't have a built in file
>> upload/edit admin feature, it's added separately as the SMF File
>> Manager mod. I uploaded the mod but some files need to be chmod 777 so
>> it can install. If you go to Admin->Packages->Browse Packages and
>> click on Apply Mod, it offers to do it automatically if you enter an
>> ftp login.
>>
>> Someone says you might also have to
>> mkdir /var/www/bitcoin/smf/packages/temp
>>
>> The error in the error log is:
>> failed to open stream: Permission denied
>> File: /var/www/bitcoin/smf/Sources/Subs-Package.php
>> (I'm sure that's just the first file)
>>
>> Is it OK to go live with this SMF installation when I'm finished
>> configuring it? I should be able to point forum.bitcoin.org to it.
>>
>> Liberty reports that linux-test8 has been running smoothly. My tests
>> have been running fine as well. The Linux version looks fully
>> stabilized to me.
>>
>> Good news: he says he made his first sale of bitcoins. Someone bought
>> out all he had. I had been wondering whether it would be buyers or
>> sellers.
이메일 #102
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:09:41 +0000
From: Satoshi Nakamoto <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: SMF forum, need a mod installed
To: [email protected]
영어 원문
> It's okay to go live. Are you setting up a redirect or a dns entry? In
> case of dns entry I could set up an Apache vhost so that the forum
> address would be http://forum.bitcoin.org/.
DNS entry.
I'm thinking of merging the bitcoin.org information with your site
content so I can switch the whole bitcoin.org domain over. We need to
replace the current bitcoin.org site with a user-oriented site before
the release.
If the website and forum switch at the same time, then forum.bitcoin.org
isn't necessary unless we want it that way for looks.
Have you decided on the CMS to use? I should research Drupal and other
CMSes and see what's the most popular.
> Great that the Linux build works now. It's exciting to see how things
> will start rolling with the new release and the forum. Not too long
> until I can set up my own exchange and start promoting the currency to
> (web) business people.
The linux version, setup exe, tor option and better website/forum will
all increase the percentage of visitors who can use it, and the
autostart and minimize to tray will increase how many keep running it.
All those factors multiply together.
> NewLibertyStandard should perhaps change his pricing to the market price
> (i.e. what people are willing to buy and sell for) so that he doesn't
> run out of coins.
It's good to start low and only have the price go up.
I really like that he explains the concept that the cost of electricity
is a minimum floor under the price. At a minimum you either have to pay
the cost in electricity or pay someone the cost of production to make
them for you.
이메일 #103
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:02:20 +0000
From: Satoshi Nakamoto <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: SMF forum, need a mod installed
To: [email protected]
영어 원문
Thanks, that worked, I got File Manager installed with SSH. I also
uploaded a few themes into Drupal. I haven't thoroughly gone through
all the available themes yet.
Looked around at CMSes, Drupal and Joomla are popular. Consensus is
Joomla has a better selection of themes and is easier to learn, though
Drupal may be more intuitive for programmers and customization. Joomla
better for CMS, Drupal better for blogs. Drupal's URLs are search
engine friendly, Joomla not.
Both have SMF bridge modules available. For future reference, Drupal's
is named "SMFforum Integration".
[email protected] wrote:
> I don't have the time to configure it today, but I made a temporary
> account "" with password "" and full permissions to
> /var/www/bitcoin. You can access it via ssh or sftp at port 30000.
이메일 #104
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:50:00 +0200
From: [email protected]
To: Satoshi Nakamoto <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: SMF forum, need a mod installed
영어 원문
I've done a Joomla site for a customer, and I must say I like Drupal
better, mostly for the admin interface which is easier to use and
integrated into the main site.
Images aren't loading properly over https, I'll check it out when I can.
It's easier to just change the bitcoin.org DNS entry,
forum.bitcoin.org is not necessary.
We could see if we can get a free SSL certificate somewhere, like
http://www.startssl.com/?app=1, so the users wouldn't get a security
warning from a self-signed certificate. However I don't know if they
give certificates for anonymously registered domains.
> Thanks, that worked, I got File Manager installed with SSH. I also
> uploaded a few themes into Drupal. I haven't thoroughly gone through
> all the available themes yet.
>
> Looked around at CMSes, Drupal and Joomla are popular. Consensus is
> Joomla has a better selection of themes and is easier to learn, though
> Drupal may be more intuitive for programmers and customization. Joomla
> better for CMS, Drupal better for blogs. Drupal's URLs are search
> engine friendly, Joomla not.
>
> Both have SMF bridge modules available. For future reference, Drupal's
> is named "SMFforum Integration".
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>> I don't have the time to configure it today, but I made a temporary
>> account "" with password "" and full permissions to
>> /var/www/bitcoin. You can access it via ssh or sftp at port 30000.
이메일 #105
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:46:52 +0000
From: Satoshi Nakamoto <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: SMF forum, need a mod installed
To: [email protected]
영어 원문
I'll go ahead with setting up Drupal then.
I don't think we should make the site https by default. It's still very
unusual for the public part of sites to be https, probably because it
introduces potential technical complications, delays and greater server
load. As a user I'm a little annoyed when it takes time to verify the
identity of some no-name site I casually came across. For me it seems
like https sites fail to load a lot more often.
The important thing is to have SSL available for those who need it.
Those who need SSL I think know to try inserting an "s" after http and
see if it works. SMF has code that changes all the links to https if
the URL handed in is https.
We could add a note on the registration page that if you want SSL, you
can change http to https at any time and approve the self-signed
certificate, or a link that does it, and the TOR page can mention it too.
We can look into getting a certificate later when things have settled
down. With Class 1, no changes are allowed for a year, which is a risk
if we find issues with the current host and have to change IP.
[email protected] wrote:
> I've done a Joomla site for a customer, and I must say I like Drupal
> better, mostly for the admin interface which is easier to use and
> integrated into the main site.
>
> Images aren't loading properly over https, I'll check it out when I can.
>
> It's easier to just change the bitcoin.org DNS entry, forum.bitcoin.org
> is not necessary.
>
> We could see if we can get a free SSL certificate somewhere, like
> http://www.startssl.com/?app=1, so the users wouldn't get a security
> warning from a self-signed certificate. However I don't know if they
> give certificates for anonymously registered domains.
>
>> Thanks, that worked, I got File Manager installed with SSH. I also
>> uploaded a few themes into Drupal. I haven't thoroughly gone through
>> all the available themes yet.
>>
>> Looked around at CMSes, Drupal and Joomla are popular. Consensus is
>> Joomla has a better selection of themes and is easier to learn, though
>> Drupal may be more intuitive for programmers and customization. Joomla
>> better for CMS, Drupal better for blogs. Drupal's URLs are search
>> engine friendly, Joomla not.
>>
>> Both have SMF bridge modules available. For future reference, Drupal's
>> is named "SMFforum Integration".
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> I don't have the time to configure it today, but I made a temporary
>>> account "" with password "" and full permissions to
>>> /var/www/bitcoin. You can access it via ssh or sftp at port 30000.
>
>
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